As a Marquette graduate, I take great offense at the notion that the diploma privelege is anachronistic and fraudulent. I recall having to learn all of my substantive courses 3 ways; federal; model; and Wisconsin. Most of the advanced workshop courses were focused almost exclusively on Wisconsin law. After 4 1/2 years of practice, I can tell you the diploma privilege is certainly earned and worthwhile. I know lawyers who graduated in the middle of their class from a Wisconsin school that know infinitely more about Wisconsin law than some east coast ivory tower graduate.
Comment By Cato
Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 9:38 AM
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Unlimited exams would open Pandora’s Box
Would you trust the skills of a surgeon who took his boards 10 times before passing?
Neither would I, nor would I want to enlist the services of an attorney who had to take the Wisconsin bar exam 10 times.
But the state Supreme Court with a 5-2 vote has tentatively approved a plan that would eliminate limits on how many times someone could try to pass it. Court staff is drafting potential changes that would allow unlimited attempts to pass the bar exam.
As Supreme Court Rule 40.04 stands now, graduates of law schools from out side Wisconsin are guaranteed three opportunities to pass. After that, they can ask the Board of Bar Examiners for additional opportunities, but the criteria upon which the BBE makes its decisions are not clearly defined.
During a public hearing last week, BBE Director John Kosobucki told the justices that petitioners must present a study plan that they will complete prior to taking the bar exam again. The plan must be overseen by a licensed attorney.
On Nov. 7, the state’s high court considered a petition from Arnold A. Moncada Jr., a Thomas Cooley Law School (Lansing, Mich.) graduate who has made five unsuccessful attempts to pass the Wisconsin bar exam. Audio of that public hearing for Petition 07-04 is available here. Moncada said that 31 states allow unlimited attempts to pass the exam. He also noted that some other professions within Wisconsin allow unlimited opportunities to pass their licensing examinations.
I understand wanting to level the playing field with Wisconsin law school graduates who receive diploma privilege. However, the solution is not to eliminate the safeguards we have in place to protect the public. Questions regarding the appropriateness of diploma privilege should be considered separately.
It would make sense to establish firm guidelines for the BBE to use when determining whether to allow candidates to take the bar exam a fourth time, so that each person is treated equitably. However, the absence of those guidelines does not warrant opening the door to taking the bar exam an unlimited number of times.
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You're all kidding, right? Of course you shouldn't be able to fail 10 times. And yet a majority of licensed lawyers in the state didn't pass ANY bar examination; they were admitted under the anachronism--some would say outright fraud--known as the diploma privilege. So you say we should automatically admit the poorest law student in the state on motion and without any exam--which we do every single year, incidentally--but bar the door to ANYbody who has to take the exam? Please. Let's talk first about making changes that really mean something.
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Three times seems like more than enough. However, if unlimited test taking is allowed, it should be conditioned on obtaining a higher score every time.
Comment By Nick Zales Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 10:12 AM |
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I have to agree. In California (I'm a WI out-of-state attorney), we allow anyone to take the bar unlimited times and I believe the record is 46. That guy, since finally passing a few years ago, has already been disciplined twice by the stat bar and probably will be disbarred soon.
Taking the Cal bar two or three times before passing is not at all uncommon (with a 40% pass rate),but with all due respect to the Wisconsin BBE, the California bar is exponentially more difficult. If you have to take the Wisconsin bar more than twice, it really says something. James Peters http:www.calemployeerightsblog.com Comment By James Peters Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 9:20 AM |
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